I think Tim could well be upload the fresh goes through of your own photo in order to their webpages, and certainly will article you to definitely relationship to the fresh newsgroup.

Re: Wingfield Applications-of-Arms

relationships of one’s members, (brand new Wingfields was in fact explored fairly well, and despite my typo with the Howard family, I actually do feel the pedigree correctly annotated within RI) >>

I don’t know this is an exact report. Does the publication address the newest age bracket *prior* to John Russell who age mom and dad from Elizabeth Russell exactly who meters Sir Robert Wingfield ?

Re: ? Comyn spouse of Malise

I have the second to submit some of gГҐ vidare till den hГ¤r lГ¤nken hГ¤r nu the openings your reveal forthe high-grand-parents away from Reginald ce Cheyne. One of the primaryadditions stems from his paternal grandma (NN on your own article) havingbeen Mary de Moravia (als de- Moray), cousin and you may coheiress regarding Freskinde Moravia of Duffus (her parents Walter de- Moravia and you may Euphemia ofRoss are available lower than). You have the concern as to his maternalgrandmother: I keep she was Joanna de Menteith, 2nd partner out of Malise,Earl out-of Strathearn. This would at the very least promote an almost explanationfor Joanna’s daughter Helen off Strathearn (partner successively ofReginald le Cheyne, the daddy, and of Sir David de- Graham) beingnamed having Helen de Menteith, sibling from Joanna and you may spouse of Sir ColinCampbell away from Lochow (d. bef May 1343).

Unfortuitously, I think you will find extra openings when you look at the Muriel Keith’sancestry (get a hold of below). As to often additions suggested on the tablesbelow, please advise of every indexed conflicts, or exactly what documentationmight indicate any mistake noted.

I have openings in both ancestries, however, ferociously in that regarding Reginald.Getting Muriel Keith, their high-grandparents We show1 William de- Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton

I’m not conscious of one documentation giving support to the identity on the partner because the Barbara Seton. When you have detailed any, delight indicates.

step 3 Alexander de- Synton4 NN5 Alexander out-of /Fraser/ Chamberlain out of Scotland d step 3 Aug 13326 Mary de Brus, Baroness /Fraser/

Sir Alexander Fraser hitched Mary Bruce (otherwise de Brus), along with good child John identified as ‚nepos‘ from Robert _the_Bruce. It young man is a young John, not, and never their heir. John Fraser, afterwards lord out-of Aboyne, try the fresh son regarding a primary relationships (which wife unknown; You will find it into expert from Andrew MacEwen).

step 3 Walter de Moravia (young buck out of Hugh de- Moravia, and you will Annabela of Fife) cuatro Euphemia regarding Ross (dau. out of Fearchar, very first Earl out-of Ross and you can NN deBrus)

5 Malise, 6th Earl regarding /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN perhaps Comyn d aft 13097 Sir John de Menteith (young man away from Walter Stewart, Elizabeth away from Menteith and you may

This new consanguinity ranging from Muriel Keith and you may Reginald ce Cheyne -known to was basically a great-grandson out of Malise, Earl regarding Strathearn (d.1312) – is the sole research (if the secondary) why these a couple of individualshad one or more ancestor/ancestress in keeping.

I have openings both in ancestries, however, fiercely where from Reginald.For Muriel Keith, her high-grandparents I show1 William de- Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton3 Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander away from /Fraser/ Chamberlain away from Scotland d step three Aug 13326 Mary de- Brus, Baroness /Fraser/7 NN Fraser8 NN

To have Reginald ce Cheney it’s sparse1 NN Cheney , 2 NN, step 3 NN, cuatro NN5 Malise, 6th Earl from /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN possibly Comyn d aft 13097 and you will 8 NN

Re: Agnes Beler

Woodford, early 15the century, within the Leicestershire. Elizabeth is the brand new d Villiers and you can Agnes Beler. Now, I want to hook up Agnes in order to Sir Roger Beler, slain by the Eustace de- Folville, but I can’t get a hold of one factual statements about their. Can somebody help?